Over the past couple of years or
so I have gone on aol message boards and other blogs and seen thousand and
thousands of people have the same opinion as me that see how
bad alcohol is for your body and society. Here are just a
couple hundred or so of these opinions.
Who will lead fight against alcohol?
Mar. 20, 2006 12:00 AM
Kudos to Richard Cohen for his column Friday, "One
drink too many."
It's about time somebody highlighted this
problem. Alcohol is as much a drug as pharmaceuticals and tobacco.
Now, who will lead us in going after the alcoholic-beverage
industry the way we went after the tobacco cartel? Or is that off
limits? - Kent S. Larsen,
Gilbert
New Years' Resolutions Can Be
Beneficial
By Thomas Keyes Feb. 27,
2005
I know it may seem childish to make New Years?
resolutions, as if there were something magical about that day,
when, if we used a different calendar, what we call New Year?s
Day would just be another prosaic, quotidian day.
So far
I?ve kept my New Years? resolutions not only for year 2006, but
also those I made in 1983 and 1987, both of which have been
exceedingly beneficial, however artificial the routine and
ritual of resolving.
In 1983, I resolved to stop drinking
alcoholic beverages of all kinds, and to this day I have lived
up to it. Previously, I had made the same resolution several
times, but each time, I did it with the intention of staying
sober only until the holidays. So I would refrain from liquor
from January 1 till Thanksgiving, and complimenting myself on my
resolve, I would drink from Thanksgiving till January 1 of the
following year. But this was not enough. Causing myself much
shame because of some of the foolish things I did when I was
drunk, and even getting into legal difficulties, whose nature
I?d just as soon not mention, I eventually realized that
absolute abstention was the only way for me. So in 1983 I made
an unconditional resolution: not a drop of liquor, wine or beer
ever again. No longer was it a matter of staying sober for 11
months out of 12; it was for good. And so far I?ve been lucky
enough not to slip in these 23 years. I would not say that I am
resisting temptation any longer though, for rarely does the thought
even cross my mind nowadays.
Last August, I started doing
regular exercises, which is something that I?ve been very
neglectful about over the years, particularly since I did lots
of walking and bicycling, which I figured was enough. Now,
instead, since my walking and cycling have become minimal, I do
a variety of exercises that require about an hour and fifteen
minutes a day, but I am always just a little disinclined to get
going. Another matter is that I haven?t witnessed a tremendous
amount of improvement. But I want to try it throughout the year
before I judge on whether it is worth the trouble. So that was
my resolution this year. So far so good. Since I actually
started in August, I have 6 months in already. One thing is
certain, and that is that exercise won't do me any
harm.
BAN ALCOHOL TOO
Mark Thread Read #1 - 12/29/05 11:08 PM (Msg Id:
558207:42) DirectDemocracy9
SMOKING , ALCOHOL AND
DRUGS GO HAND IN HAND..... THEY ALL DESTROY SOCIETY........ CAN
ANYONE OF YOU SHOW ME WHERE ANY OF THESE POISONS HAVE BENEFITED
SOCIETY??........ THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OWN STATISTICS AS
WELL AS THE FBI'S STATE THAT MORE THAN 90% OF ALL VIOLENT CRIME
IN THE U.S. HAVE EITHER ALCOHOL AND/OR DRUGS INVOLVED....... WHAT
MORE PROOF DOES ANY OF YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT ALCOHOL IS AS
DANGEOUS AS ILLEGAL
DRUGS??........
Attack drinking Jerome C. Malon Published
January 26, 2006
Chicago -- Now that we have
restricted smoking, it's time to attack alcohol. Because
individuals drink too much, they can cause death and injuries to
innocent people, and have a number of related sickness problems
that cost taxpayers and insurance companies millions of dollars,
will local governments address this problem and ban alcohol
next?
The new legislation that is due to
begin next year (I think), is to protect those people who
undoubtedly would have their health damaged by passively
smoking other peoples tobacco products.<
I don't
have a problem with that..just that there are many more things
should be done safeguarding the air we breathe (other than
blaming smokers) and things in general done to those
through no fault of their own but by others "wee pleasures
in life" KWIM? Like stricter laws on factory and car emissions
etc...a no dumping whatsoever policy of harmful chemicals
into our waters etc..a total ban on any alcohol in your
system and none of this one or two drinks crap is OK ...ah
well..am off to book a flight to Utopia..anyone coming
along? LOL
Message 1 of 1 Subject: Re: IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!!!
Date: 6/6/2005 Mightysphinx wrote:
[[Now we need to ban alcohol also. It
has no medical use and is even more dangerous than
Marijuana. Let's get rid of ALL the drugs. ]] Message 1 of
1 Subject: Federal Government does it again!!
Date: 6/6/2005 12:36 P.M. Central Standard Time
From: _Shannonbobanon42_
Once again the federal government has
found a way to interfere with what we the people of the
United States voted for. I find it ridiculous how Federal
Government even has a say in the matter but if they cannot
profit from We The People they'll make sure they regulate
it. Remember the Alcohol Ban? In the end all the
Government Really cares about is MONEY. Message 24 of 31 Subject
1 of 1 Subject: Re: Muralitharan Date:
6/13/2005 6:48 P.M. Central Standard Time From:
_Paulsoffstump_
(aol://4951:req=mb&sn=Paulsoffstump&email=&dsn=Paulsoffstump&dsf=1/)
MsgId: 483983:7519
> >All drugs
banned! What is wrong with that? All players banned for
life for >drug use? Yeah! That's what we
want. Message 1 of 1 Subject: Re: Legaliztion
of Marijuana Date: 6/26/2005 9:48 P.M. Central
Standard Time From:
>From:
Whygohome725
> >Tobacco and alcohol are just as
addictive, if not more addictive than >marijuana.
Tobacco and alcohol, though federally controlled, are
still >precursors to some of the most deadly diseases
and causes of death in this >country, and they are still
legal with no public outcry to ban them. >Marijuana DOES
have what some would call severe effects, but so does
alcohol >and tobacco. Hey, Im Bethanie, if I ruled the
world I would totally ban wars and all murderers would be
killed, see how they like it!!!! I would make all unhappy
people go on a happy course so every1 wud SMILE!!!!! I
would keeps skools cos if we dint hav em, then life wud be
borin and we wud be thick as bricks!!! But anyway, I would
stop world hunger and make every1 get treated fairly so nobody
wud ever argue. I wud ban boring tv documentaries and ban
smoking, alcohol and drugs 4EVA!!!!! I wud give every1
£1,000,000 so they cud hav a really good life, but if they waste
it they wont get eny mor money. All illnesses wud be
treated and I wud employ loadza scientists and researchers
and i'd make loadza new inventions. This is what i'd do if
i ruled the world!!!! If eny1 thinks dis is a good
idea....reply PLZ!!!!!!!!
Message 1 of 1
Subject: Just think people..for real. Date:
6/7/2005 7:47 A.M. Central Standard Time From:
_AircheckJoe_
They are saying they don't know if
marijuana is a safe drug to use...hello...does that mean
we should make voixx, bextra and phen phen illegal drugs to
possess with jail sentences. What about all the
people abusing their Oxycotton prescriptions...should we
make that illegal too. If the government could find
a way to make more money off of selling marijuana then they could
off of preventing it this wouldn't be an issue.
There is more alcohol related deaths in a America than
marijuana but alcohol is still legal..and at one point
alcohol was prohibited....what made it safe all of a
sudden....nothing....the government found a way to make
money of it by taxing it and taking political
contributions from the breweries. Let's not even go into
the cigarettes that kill people everyday...willl they ban
those...never...the tobacco companies pay for every
politian's campaign.
Message 1 of 1 Subject: Smoking
ban Date: 6/10/2005 10:43 A.M. Central Standard
Time From: _MariaKvs_
Hmmmm. Why dont we just ban alcohol
as well. More people die from accidents from drinking and
driving. Message 1 of 1 Subject: How about
alcohol Date: 6/6/2005 4:45 P.M. Central Standard
Time From: (aol://4951:req=mb&sn=SRice55000&email=&dsn=SRice55000&dsf=1/)
_SRice55000_
(aol://4951:req=mb&sn=SRice55000&email=&dsn=SRice55000&dsf=1/)
MsgId: 552929:4063
why doesn't the
government ban alcohol, which has killed many people and broken
up families
Message 1 of 1 Subject 1 of 1
Subject: Re: Ban the Hajj Date: 6/16/2005 3:40
P.M. Central Standard Time From: _AZSHA_
Idiotic people propose iditic stuff. Alcohol
is the thing that should be banned. Alcohol kills 1
person every 2 mins due accident, rape etc.
Message 1 of 1 Subject: Re: Ban
drinking!!! Date: 6/6/2005 12:01 P.M. Central
Standard Time From: _HICKSVT_
I agree. All we
hear is smoking Cigs. and pot. Well I agree Alcohol is the
killer of other people.
But the reason why drinking is
okay is because over half of the goverment does it.
Message 1 of 1 Subject: Why
is alcohol legal? Date: 6/6/2005 1:46 P.M. Central
Standard Time From: _Valea42_
I dont understand
how a liquid drug that destroys families,neighborhoods is
legal but not pot? Isnt that hypocritical why than not ban
both which would be fine with me.
Message 1 of 1 Subject: Our
stupid government! Date: 6/6/2005 7:25 P.M. Central
Standard Time From: _Papacubkb_
Cigarettes and
alcohol kill way more people than good ol' pot ever will, and
will continue to do so. However our greedy, stupid
*ss government which doesn't have a lick of common sense,
can't profit from it so they ban it. If it were
legal it would also cut into the insane profits that the
pharmaceutical companies are raking in by making Americans
take their useless products, therefore they contribute
millions to our stupid government to fight the
legalization of pot. Our government doesn't operate
on smarts and common sense, just dollars.
BAN ALCOHOL Subject: BAN
ALCOHOL Date: 5/27/05 2:46:11 PM EDT Author:
PTracy9
Alcohol should be banned; it is too
dangerous. Subject: Re: Fans are
idiots Date: 5/18/05 5:55:24 PM EDT Author:
RDFruth
I've had beer spilled on me. A drunk slumped-over
onto my wife's lap. Alcohol has ruined our MLB
exposure. We simply do not attend games any
more. Subject: Re: SPORTS AND THE
FAT MAN Date: 5/18/05 7:40:06 PM EDT Author:
dugan94241
I would bet more than 75% of incidents at sporting events
are due to alcohol!! Period....Drunks act stupid, no
exceptions.. Subject: Re: SPORTS AND
THE FAT MAN Date: 5/18/05 8:47:45 PM EDT Author:
STAUR1
I work at a stadium it is
more like 95% of all problems are from
drinking Subject: Re: BAN
ALCOHOL Date: 5/27/05 3:04:53 PM EDT Author:
CBabiash
alcohol and alcohol related driving deaths
kill more people than guns, diseases and most
everything else.
Ban alcohol sales
at
games
Subject: Ban alcohol sales at
games Date: 5/18/05 4:44:01 PM EDT Author:
Rb26guitar
We all know the answer, but noone (including
the leagues because of the sponsorship) wants to give up
their cold beer. I highly doubt there are any of these
incidents that occur that aren't the result of some
intoxicated asshole. You stop alcohol sales and you weed
out a large percentage that are just there to get trashed
and either verbally or physically players, or in most cases,
they verbally and physically abuse the OTHER FANS. That's
what pisses me off. You try to go to a game, bring your
family or friends or whatever, and you have to deal with
morons that are their for obviously other reasons than the
game. I know, I know.."I" don't do that, so don't stop
selling beer!!! is what your thinking. Well, then shut up
and prepare to deal with this as it gets worse and
worse. Subject: BAN ALCOHOL Date: 5/18/05
2:02:34 PM EDT Author: CAJNBABE43
THE ONLY WAY ALL
THIS NONSENCE WILL STOP IS TO QUIT SELLING BOOZE @ SPORTING
EVENTS! YOUCAN'T EVEN TAKE YOUR KIDS ANYMORE~ WHAT A
SHAME.
JM: Drunk driving already kills thousands while it is
legal. You think that number would go UP if it was made
illegal? I don't. The organized crime gangs that operated
during the first prohibition are all long busted. They don't
operate at the same levels as they once did......and can't
any more because of modern sophisticated law enforcement
techniques. This generation doesn't have the guts like
previous generations....in spite of all the media propaganda
bull shit. Most people these days are docile
sheep.
Alcohol kills. Alcohol is evil
JM: Then
you are for banning of alcohol also, right? Good.....so am
I. Subject: Re: Drugs End All
Dreams=D.E.A.D. Date: 6/7/05 3:17:35 AM EDT Author:
Lonelycook
You are so right, in fact lets also ban the
use of alcohol and tobacco. VictorSto wrote:
[[PLEASE STOP ALL THE TYPES OF DRUGS BEFORE IT ENDS YOUR
OR A LOVED ONE'S LIFE. IT'S REALLY NOT WORTH IT.
PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE AND DESTROY YOUR LIFE.
GOD LOVES YOU THE WAY HE MADE YOU NATURALLY.
]]
Subject: IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!!! Date: 6/6/05
1:09:41 PM EDT Author: Mightysphinx
Thank you for
your rating. Now we need to ban
alcohol also. It has no medical use and is even more
dangerous than Marijuana. Let's get rid of ALL the
drugs.
Subject: this law is soooo
backwards Date: 6/6/05 6:27:42 PM EDT Author:
TSOURCE1030
This law is so backwards. If the feds want to be so big and bad
to outlaw medical marijuana, why don't they brush up on
what happens when alcohol is consumed or cigarettes are
smoked. It's alcohol and cigarettes that should be
illegal! Alcohol has been attributed to so many
murders, drunken drivers killing our loved ones,
drownings.......I could go on and on. Cigareettes cause
respiratory problems, makes you miss work, etc. In summary,
the Federal Government should not worry so much on how we
treat ourselves. Alcohol and cigarettes should be banned.
Ignornant, Ignorant,
Ignorant....
Subject: Ignornant, Ignorant,
Ignorant.... Date: 6/6/05 3:15:08 PM EDT Author:
Razorman2
For those of us who went to college (and actually did some
studying), we learned that there has never once been a death
related to the use of marijuana alone. We also
learned, that two of the three most dangerous drugs to the
human body are alcohol and nicotine. Where does
marijuana stand on that list? It is pretty close to
the bottom. Our society has let itself become ignorant,
and judgemental. Why do we condone and accept
alcohol and nicotine as a "lifestyle", something cool and
glamorous? Why does our society continue to fall for
this insane propaganda? The answer is two
fold....money and big corporations. Open your eyes people.
If we want to ban the use of marijuana, then should we not
take the next step and ban the use of alcohol and
nicotine? Many of you are mislead, and therefore
assume mislead opinions. No, I am not
saying that we should aslo condone the use of other drugs that
are medically proven to cause permanent, and long term
damage to our bodies (heroin, cocaine, LSD). What I am
saying is our society needs to wake up, and educate itself
with the facts, not what our "trustworty" government and
media tell us. If we are to classify those who smoke
marijuana as loosers, should we not put those who drink
and smoke cigaretes into the same category? Why do we
classify those who smoke marijuana as criminals, when we
classify alcoholics as people who have a
disease? Shame on the government! Shame on
those of you who judge others, and have no idea what you
are talking about! Shame on you for not thinking for
yourself! Wake up people!
Subject: Re: whacky Date: 6/6/05
1:49:20 PM EDT Author: Collecthearts46
Kluj1
wrote: [[what a bunch of whacky crapola...banning
pot for medical...hell it should be legal just for
recreation......oh wait...people can go buy alcohol...get
stupid drunk to the point they can not stand up...then
drive and killl......to date, being 45, i have not seen
one such person smoke a lil weed and get beligerent or
stupid as they do on alcohol...go figure !! EXACTLY!!!
People will never "GET IT", you can get all the alcohol,
and prescription drugs you want, all addictive, all
causing serious car accidents, falls, etc. but weed that
helps people in numerous ways, has to be bought on the sly,
like your a criminal...sick, twisted laws!! give me a
bone any day over a pill or booze!
Subject: Re: Marijuana Date:
6/6/05 3:03:06 PM EDT Author: BttsGrvl
Alcohol is
the drug that should be banned. at least a stoner is
mellow. drunk people are obnoxcious
morons.
Message (Msg #
552929:2092) Subject: Re: OUTLAW ALCOHOL Date: 6/6/05
2:23:58 PM EDT Author: RaceNdirt
Don't believe it
for a second. Our government has been profitting off drug
trafficking longer than I've been alive. It's big
business. 60 Minutes focused on the subject at their
inception. Sad our politicians can see fit to allow
alcohol (which has no medicinal properties) and would deny
someone terminally ill the right to comfort. A great many
of our drugs have a plant base but marijuana has been
singled out. It has been taboo. Is it because it might
drive the street value down and attack profits if a ban
was lifted? That would be my guess. Fact is alcohol
kills every day. Subject: Medical
marijuana... Date: 6/6/05 7:08:01 PM EDT Author:
Windyshawnm This
statement bothers me: John Walters, director of national
drug control policy, defended the government's ban.
"Science and research have not determined that smoking
marijuana is safe or effective," he said. ok... but
alcohol & cigarettes have proven health problems
associated with them but they are legal? How many
people have died from overdosing on marijuana (pure, not
laced)? 0 How many people have died from alcohol
poisoning? Waaay more than 100 How many people have died
from smoking cigarettes? Millions Subject: Just
think people..for real. Date: 6/7/05 8:47:14 AM
EDT Author:
AircheckJoe
They are saying they don't know if marijuana is a safe
drug to use...hello...does that mean we should make
voixx, bextra and phen phen illegal drugs to possess
with jail sentences. What about all the people abusing
their Oxycotton prescriptions...should we make that
illegal too. If the government could find a way
to make more money off of selling marijuana then they
could off of preventing it this wouldn't be an
issue. There is more alcohol related deaths in a
America than marijuana but alcohol is still legal..and at one
point alcohol was prohibited....what made it safe all of
a sudden....nothing....the government found a way to
make money of it by taxing it and taking political
contributions from the breweries. Let's not even go into
the cigarettes that kill people everyday...willl
they ban those...never...the tobacco companies pay for
every politian's campaign.
Subject: How
about alcohol Date: 6/6/05 5:45:13 PM
EDT Author:
SRice55000
why doesn't the government ban alcohol, which has killed
many people and broken up families....give me a break some
of you against legalizing are probably sitting down
drinking you a beer right now..... Subject: Re:
Marijuana is Not a Safe Drug Date: 6/6/05 5:30:04 PM
EDT Author: Lin2u52
ScottB6316 wrote:
[[ Just wondering, what are your thoughts on the
sale and marketing of alcohol, particularly at sporting
events and spring break events. I'm sure there are
alot of folks out there, whose loved ones have suffered
at the hands of drunk drivers, who would say alcohol
was a gateway drug to all kinds of stupid acts including
beating up your wife and vehicular manslaughter. Or,
here's an idea...lets try and raise our kids responsibly and
let those people with chronic illnesses get the
relief they need. ]] Honey I don't drink or use
drugs so banning the booze is a great idea to me. I
have felt that way for a long time. The trouble with
booze an illeagle drugs that it makes on feel invincable,
9' tall and bullet proof so it causes all kinds of
problems for society.
]]
Subject: Re: Marijuana Date:
6/6/05 4:10:31 PM EDT Author:
ForSickPupsOnly
Beckboat girl wrote:
[[ StrykerDustyRed wrote: [[PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS KILL MORE PEOPLE IN A YEAR THAN POT HAS KILLED IN THE
LAST 50 YEARS. ]] Alcohol kills more people, directly
and indirectly, and ruins more families lives than
any single "drug" on the planet, but, do any politicians want
to ban it?
Subject: Re: Ban drinking!!! Date:
6/6/05 1:01:47 PM EDT Author:
HICKSVT
I agree. All we hear is smoking Cigs. and pot. Well I
agree Alcohol is the killer of other people. But
the reason why drinking is okay is because over half of the
goverment does it. Why is alcohol
legal?
Subject: Why is alcohol
legal? Date: 6/6/05 2:46:12 PM EDT Author:
Valea42
I dont understand how a liquid drug that destroys
families,neighborhoods is legal but not pot? Isnt that
hypocritical why than not ban both which would be fine
with me.
Subject: Our stupid
government! Date: 6/6/05 8:25:26 PM EDT Author:
Papacubkb
Cigarettes and alcohol kill way
more people than good ol' pot ever will, and will continue to do
so. However our greedy, stupid *ss government which
doesn't have a lick of common sense, can't profit from it
so they ban it. If it were legal it would also
cut into the insane profits that the pharmaceutical
companies are raking in by making Americans take their
useless products, therefore they contribute millions to
our stupid government to fight the legalization of
pot. Our government doesn't operate on smarts and common
sense, just dollars. If you contribute enough money,
you can control the government. Do you think we
would be in Iraq if they didn't have any oil...I think
not, WMD's is just a lie masking the oil companies
money interests. This medical marijuana issue cuts
into the pharmaceutical companies bottom line. The
pharmaceutical companies don't care about our health...just
the health of their bank accounts. Just listen to
their commercials. Take this prescription pill
for this minor ailment..but you may suffer these horrendous
side effects. Subject: MEDICINAL
MARIJUANA Date: 6/6/05 12:00:11 PM EDT Author:
Aqueenan3kings
BUT THE GOVT. WILL ALLOW YOU TO BUY ALCOHOL--DRINK &
GET SO HIGH YOU KILL SOMEOME ELSE OR YOURSELF DUE TO BEING
IMPAIRED. I JUST FEEL THAT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO GO
TO SLEEP & WAKE UP IN SEVERE PAIN EVERY DAY OF THEIR
LIVES. SO YOU GOVT. PEOPLE---WAKE UP & SMELL THE
COFFEE DUDES- MARIJUANA DOESN'T KILL--BOOZE DOES!!!! BAN
THE BOOZE & KEEP OUR FAMLIES ALIVE--TIGHTEN THE LAWS ON
THE CRAP & HELP OUR DISABLED,VETS,ACCIDENT
VICTIMS(DUE TO BOOZE) LIVE WITH LESS TO NO PAIN FOR THE
REST OF THEIR PAINFULL
LIVES---PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STELLA CASWELL
Subject: Re: band them! Date:
5/31/05 4:09:35 PM EDT Author: Wiz kid
19936517 Ban alcohol! The
goverments wouldn't do that cos they r horrible
monsters, they dont care about people, they only
care about all the money they get. I wish it was
banned i really do Subject: Re: Ban
cigarettes and alcohol Date: 6/6/05 2:43:07 PM
EDT Author: JEBPURTY
SpiritedFriend2 wrote:
[[They are the true poisons of society along with the self
righteous religious reich. ]] I agree
100%.
Take interest in the future--that
is where you will spend the rest of your
life!
Subject: Re: BUSINESS RIGHTS Date:
5/12/05 5:17:14 PM EDT Author: AnntWb
it never
ceases to amaze me how this country goes from one extreme to
the other......alcohol should be banned altogether,
it causes more accidents, more domestic violence more
everything.
Annette
Subject: Re: Drugs
End All Dreams=D.E.A.D. Date: 6/7/05 3:17:35 AM
EDT Author: Lonelycook
Thank you for your
rating. You are so right,
in fact lets also ban the use of alcohol and
tobacco. VictorSto wrote: [[PLEASE STOP ALL THE
TYPES OF DRUGS BEFORE IT ENDS YOUR OR A LOVED
ONE'S
LIFE.& IT'S REALLY NOT WORTH IT. PLEASE DON'T
MAKE THE MISTAKE AND DESTROY YOUR LIFE. GOD LOVES
YOU THE WAY HE MADE YOU NATURALLY. ]]
Date: 5/15/05 6:22:37 PM
EDT Author:
Ihategomar
>From: JetMechMA
>I think alcohol should be
banned ....again. I have seen nothing but harm
come >from it's use. I would vote for prohibition in
a heart beat.
BAN
ALCOHOL TOO Subject: BAN ALCOHOL TOO Date: 7/25/05 5:14:38 PM EDT Author: Jpf1326
I DOUBT THE POLITICIANS WILL BAN ALCOHOL BECAUSE
THEY ALL ENJOY LIQUID LUNCHES. I
PROPOSE WE BAN ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO AND PASS
A LAW THAT EVERYONE MUST ATTEND CHURCH
ON SUNDAY Subject: Smoking Bans Burning Me Up Date: 7/25/05 2:18:01 PM EDT Author: rcoyle785
Having already been banned from restarants,
public buildings, and even some entire
cities (Check out Boulder, Colorado's recent bans), and some
companies requiring their employees to be
smoke free even away from work, additional legislation not only seems pointless, but
spiteful. What strikes me as incongrous is that these same establishments and
cities welcome tobacco products for
the sales they represent. Know of any cities where the
sale of cigarettes is banned? Seen any
business licenses for smoke shops denied lately? I strongly doubt it. If
they are so concerned about our health and the health of
others, why don't they target alcohol?
Many more people die every year at the hands of drunk drivers, intoxicated brawlers, and others
who can't or won't control their habit. I know of no bans of alcohol
in any hotels or motels. I haven't heard of any employers including mandatory
testing for any residual alcohol as a condition for employment. And talk
about costs! Any idea how much a month long alcoholism treatment program, that will
likely fail, costs? Compared to tobacco, alcohol prohibition should be
supported and immediately instituted WORLD
WIDE. The reason for the
difference? Simple, many more politicians drink today
than smoke. Many more of their
constituents do also. In other words, smokers are a persecuted minority. (The only
minority actively persecuted by and with the full support of all levels of
government) It is time to lay off. On a historical note, the government used
to encourage citizens to take up the
habit. Oftentimes, this was subtle. I distinctly
remember, for example, when I was in
boot camp the drill instructor calling out "Light em, if you
got em" as a way to begin a break.
Those who didn't smoke continued with whatever was assigned, without break.
True, this was over 30 years ago. It stills grandly illustrates one method the feds
used to promote tobacco use. The Surgeon General at one point supported the
use of chew as an alternative to smoking. Anything to keep the tax
dollars rolling in.
Date: 7/25/05 4:23:47 PM EDT Author: CACROOK1974 Why don't they get on the alcohol drinkers who
can drink at arenas, colliseums,
entertainment centers, ball parks, etc., act stupid, get loud,
obnoxious, rude especially around kids,
breathe smells raunchy, then they leave these places and drive home or next place to
drink. Let's see, it takes only seconds to get in a vehicle after drinking and
kill someone. It all comes down to money, yes, the good ole greedy Mr.
Grinch. See those places don't sell cigarettes, so they'd don't make any
money, but they do on alcohol. Get the picture? Legislators in NJ need to pass a ban alcohol
from all public places. NOW of course, biggest distractor is cell
phones. What about that? Write, call, email all NJ legislators, governor,
etc. CCrook
Subject: What about alcohol????? Date: 7/25/05 12:09:20 PM EDT Author: Chattrpuff
Smoking has been taken
off of tv and out of ads for years now. Smokers are taxed beyond the limits of anyone else, they
pay more for any kind of insurance,
and are made to feel like they are scum. Now you want to
ban smoking in cars?? When was
the last time you heard of someone getting killed because they just had too much to smoke? What
about alcohol?? The last time I heard of an accident about someone getting killed because
someone had too much to drink
was...well...TODAY! You can't stop the drunks from
drinking and driving so why not go to the
smokers, especially since we pay 3 times as much tax on our cigarettes as the people who buy
alcohol. Come on people! If we are really concerned about public safety, lets
put a ban on advertising any alcoholic drink, and tax them out the ass. Subject: Re: Bill
Would Ban Smoking While Driving Date:
7/27/05 2:04:00 AM EDT Author:
SeattleLGN123
In many
years there has been no new laws when it comes to alcohol,
alcohol taxes, and alcohol caused
deaths..why is that because alcohol lobbiest give a TON of cash to elected officals.
>From: Heatisback Subject: Smoking in Cars Date: 7/25/05 2:48:43 PM EDT Author: LMinemyer
This is the most assinine thing I've
heard in a long time. It won't be long before we'll be told when to use the
bathroom for goodness sake. Drunk drivers kill more people than someone
smoking in their car, so why haven't drinkers of alcoholic beverages been banned from
public restaurants, sporting events,
and other places where children are present? Why isn't
another tax placed on alcohol when
"the powers that be" need more money? Why don't alcoholics and the families of alcoholics
filing more lawsuits because of alcohol addiction? Give me a break!! Mary Pope
Subject: smoking in cars ban Date: 7/25/05 2:49:10 PM EDT Author: Jjarsh
OK enough is enough. Why
are they not doing the same thing with alcohol. I know it's not legal to drink and drive,
however alcohol is used more than cigarettes. Alcohol kills others on
the road, destroys families, and yet there are not special taxes on it nor it
restricted to where it can be consumed. Guess that more government
officials DRINK than SMOKE.
Subject: Re: Question for Smokers Date: 7/25/05 11:58:20 AM EDT Author: MRCGOLF
Mungacuy wrote: [[ I am wondering
why the taxes on alcohol have not skyrocketed as much as the
taxes on cigarettes. After all,
alcohol causes more health problems, mental problems and accidents then smoking. Because its all about money-- the govt
is afraid to overtax alcohol- the general public would outraged- they
dont mind living with the destroyed lives of alcoholics or the lives lost in traffic
accidents--
Subject: NJ smoking/driving ban Date: 7/25/05 12:24:14 PM EDT Author: KPamesa
When the laws require police officers
stationed outside each and every entity that sells alcoholic beverages so
that they can confiscate keys or arrest anyone who has imbibed, then and only then
should a smoking ban be considered.
Everyone should wake up to the fact that alcohol and drugs are
a far worse threat
to humanity.
Subject: Re: smoking in cars ban Date: 7/25/05 10:34:35 PM EDT Author: DoTheMathChump
I
AGREE TOTALLY LOOK AT THE DAMAGE ALCOHOL DOES TO SOCIETY /
DUI' S/DEATHS TIES UP COURTS DOMESTIC
/CHILD ABUSE ETC ETC TAX THE HECK OUT OF ALCOHOL MORE WHY IS A CASE OF BEER CHEAPER THEN A
CARTON OF CIGARETTES ? POLITICIANS WONT FIX THE PROBLEMS JUST KEEP ADDING TO
EM WITH HIGHER TAXES & IGNORING REAL ISSUES
Subject: alcohol versus smoking Date: 7/25/05 4:18:33 PM EDT Author: TrnrMag
cigarette smokers pay many hunder times
the excise taxes then alcohol drinkers
alcohol killes thousands more young people then cigarettes but because most
anti-smokers drink including the politicos
they don't want to address this
Subject: ?!?!?! Date: 7/25/05 1:23:18 PM EDT Author: SB5769
Where did the figures come from for
the "1 percent of 32,000 accidents related to smoking"? Our country has
lost its mind. What about the fact that you can watch TVand see an anti-smokers
commercial side by side with a pro alcohol commercial? Don't you think
that more people die from drunk drivers, than smoking drivers? I'm sure more
peolple have died without any control at the hands of drunk drivers, than they have
from smokers who you can walk away
from.
Subject: ban smoking? Date: 7/25/05 2:39:35 PM EDT Author: Mtk2438 If 1 % of accidents were caused by smoking
then how many were caused by drinking. Why not ban any one who
drinks any alcoholic beverage from driving as well? Or don't Jersey legistlators think
drinking is as bad as smoking?
Re: Go after
booze!!! Subject: Re: Go after booze!!! Date: 7/19/05 2:21:31 AM EDT Author: Dolly Doo 333
Lori, I agree the
Goverment keeps bringing up the tobacco but what about the alcohol? I never heard of anyone killing someone
while driving under the influence of
tobacco but sure have of under the influence of alcohol. They
wnt to ban smoking, well ban the drinking it
kills people on the road more then anything else.
Subject: alcohol versus smoking Date: 7/25/05 4:18:33 PM EDT Author: TrnrMag
cigarette smokers pay many hunder times
the excise taxes then alcohol drinkers
alcohol killes thousands more young people then cigarettes but because most
anti-smokers drink including the politicos they don't want to address
this
Subject: Re: Good Idea! Date: 7/25/05 1:49:11 PM EDT Author: Danlakeport
i think that if you are such a martyr, you
should focus your attention on banning
alcohol and cellphone usage while driving. Alcohol
is as bad as smoking. don't you
agree, or is it that you are are that narrowminde ????
Subject: Re: Bill Would Ban Smoking While
Driving Date: 7/26/05 10:14:26 AM
EDT Author: Rdwgfn1
Good
point cathy. What kills me is the damage alcohol
and drunk driving has done to so many
families across America..yet there has been NO new federal laws issued against alcohol in
over 10 years. For example I believe that if you get behind the wheel of a car
and drive drunk...and in the course that you hit someone and kill them..you
should be charged with 1st degree murder Yes what are they
charged with, Vehicular manslaughter? And not to mention how many times a person can get a dui and
spend no time in jail.
Subject: Re: Talking of drugs ...... Date: 7/4/05 8:51:16 AM EDT Author: sturob777
Mesmerise 2001 said:
"Alcohol is a
much, much more dangerous chemical. The state of altered
perception from using alcohol is more
dangerous. Use of alcohol accounts for the state of our city centres at weekends
and the violence we see there."
Agree with you. I often think that if
alcohol was only just being introduced now,
the government would have to ban it in order to have a
consistent approach. It's also amazing
how many people look down on drug-users but are quite happy to go out themselves with the
express intention of getting hammered. Ask them what the difference is and they
are hard-pressed to tell you. Personally I've never done drugs and
of alcohol, but I do see the side-effects, and so I tend to view both in
a similarly negative way. The crime and damage from alcohol tends to be more
directly felt, but there are also a lot of drugs-related crimes.
However, if by
'experienced' you mean 'experienced the effects of' then I'd
agree. I've experienced the
effects of drug use when I've been negatively affected by the behaviour of people off
their heads. I know people who have become increasingly paranoid from drug use,
and I 've seen the effects on their
friends and families. I've had stuff stolen from me by
drug users. In my opinion that
qualifies me as much as anyone else to say what I think.
Subject: WHAT ABOUT ALCOHOL PERIOD Date: 7/25/05 1:55:34 PM EDT Author: BEARDEH
FIRST THEY BETTER
FOCUS ON ALCOHOL
Subject: Re: Should be US wide! Date: 7/25/05 2:32:19 PM EDT Author: D 4 A 2 G 0 S
How
can they keep something legal that kills so many people.
There needs to be a law against
tobacco and alcohol. They both do u no good and
kill people every day.
Subject: Re: smoking ban in uk pubs Date: 7/10/05 2:53:32 AM EDT Author: Woodcowli
> >>Alcohol is far more damaging to
life, health, relationships and families >than >>smoking
ever will be.
Subject: Re: Should Smoking Be Ban? Date: 7/25/05 4:18:25 PM EDT Author: Khimaira0557
BossLdy321 wrote: [[ Ok lets
all take some time to think and be serious here.
whether you light up a
cigarette behind the wheel of your car or already have
it lite and drive ,How likely are you
to kill someone? Chances very very slim to none. If you drink some beer before or after you
get behind the wheel, how likely is the possiblity of you killing someone? I
would say maybe 75%. We alway pick on
the smokers.I think it is time all these states start
picking on the DRINKERS.
Subject: Re: smoking/cancer Date: 7/25/05 4:25:27 PM EDT Author: Khimaira0557
Grandmomdidit wrote: [[ SMOKING SHOULD
BE BANNED, PERIOD. It offers absolutely nothing
beneficial to anyone, except the
tabacco companies. ]] Ok, I know
it's not good for me. But none beneficial... If we are banning
things that are non beneficial, I
would like to start with alcohol. It has caused me and my family more grief than
cigarettes every have.
Date: 7/25/05 11:56:59 AM EDT Author: Newsdln
There are hardly any places a smoker can
go to smoke anymore.........yet, we let drinkers drive and kill themselves and
others in accidents. Why should we put up with the senseless acts of those
who drink when alcohol definitely
changes perception, thinking, judgment, etc.
Subject: Re: Another Non-Smoker Date: 7/25/05 2:07:51 PM EDT Author: Autodepot1430
do
you drink? how nmany people does alcohol kill per year? not
to mention how many families
alcohol destroys!!
Subject: Drinking & driving Date: 7/25/05 3:37:54 PM EDT Author: GUSBRAU
is
against the law, but how many people do it & get away with
it? How many lives are lost or maimed
for life because of alcohol? I don't
understand why M.A.D.D. & S.A.D.D. have not filed any
lawsuits against alcohol companies
when they are the ones responsible for teen drinking, which is on the rise.
Subject: Up in Smoke!!! Date: 7/25/05 4:17:47 PM EDT Author: Kittykiser01
Give me a break. You can NOT smoke in most
restaurants now but you can still
consume alcohol. They should quit selling alcohol in
restaurants and bars.
Subject: No smoking in cars Date: 7/25/05 1:09:49 PM EDT Author: CannelleNTulsa let's see....what does more physical,
emotional and mental damage...alcohol or cigarettes...how many people have been
killed by drunk drivers compared to
people who have been killed by smokers driving?
Message 2 of 2 (Msg # 552688:4322) Subject: BAN ALCOHOL Date: 5/27/05 3:04:53 PM EDT Author: CBabiash
alcohol and alcohol related driving deaths kill more people than guns, diseases and
most everything else.
Subject: BAN ALCOHOL Date: 5/27/05 2:46:11 PM EDT Author: PTracy9
Alcohol should be banned; it is too
dangerous. Subject: Ban Alcohol Date: 5/2/05 5:06:58 PM EDT Author: Sue h at 27
I can see the sense in banning alcohol
which definitely causes many problems and misery. You can have a good time
without it,believe it or not. You don't feel bad the next day either saving the
loss of a day in your life!
Message (Msg # 552462:395) Subject: BAN ALCOHOL Date: 5/18/05 2:02:34 PM EDT Author: CAJNBABE43
THE
ONLY WAY ALL THIS NONSENCE WILL STOP IS TO QUIT SELLING BOOZE
@ SPORTING EVENTS! YOUCAN'T EVEN TAKE
YOUR KIDS ANYMORE~ WHAT A SHAME. CAJNBABE43
Message 1 of 3 (Msg # 552362:292) Subject: Serve Alcohol & Ban Cig? Both
Dangerous Date: 5/12/05 2:57:06 PM
EDT Author: Mickbigstick
It
is a bit ironic that Restaurants which Sell Alcoholic drinks
because it makes great profits but then
ban Cigarette smoking? Which kills more people ( including highway accidents) Alcohol or
Tobacco?
Both are
harmful and hurt the Public. Why not ban both?
MONEY, MONEY, MONEY?
Message 2 of 3 (Msg # 552362:316) Subject: Re: Serve Alcohol & Ban Cig?
Both Dangerous Date: 5/12/05 3:11:23 PM
EDT Author: Mickbigstick
Restaurants with or without BARS don't
want to prohibit the use of Alcohol because
IT IS A BIG MONEY MAKER.
Same with Tobacco. If they sell
cigarettes they obvioulsy don't want to ban their use NOR WORRY ABOUT KIDS USING
ALCOHOL OR CIGARETTES. MONEY, MONEY, PROFITS IS ALL THAT COUNTS IN U.S.
SOCIETY?
Message 3 of 3 (Msg # 552362:324) Subject: Re: Serve Alcohol & Ban Cig?
Both Dangerous Date: 5/12/05 3:14:28 PM
EDT Author: Mickbigstick
YEP. Talk health and protection of
Kids but MAKE MONEY OFF OF ALCOHOL & TOBACCO.
Message 1 of 4 (Msg # 552362:546) Subject: No smoke? Then no alcohol! Date: 5/12/05 4:24:38 PM EDT Author: NMSUGrad
By
this logic, if I can be banned from smoking on my own time, then I think they
should also consider banning the use of alcohol on one's own time. Alcoholism is a
serious disease, alcohol related deaths by vehicle are a serious issue . .
. let's take it to it's logical conclusion! More people drink than smoke
now days don't you think?
Subject: Re:
Alcohol? Date: 5/12/05 1:00:48 PM
EDT Author: Prs486
[[ We have the stats that
show alcohol is related to more deaths, disease, and medical costs than drugs or tobacco...
Why not ban alcohol for
"off-duty" activities? I sure would feel much safer knowing those with their fingers on "the
button" were thinking straight...
Hmmm...wonder if our "law makers and elected
officials" would support that bill?
They have the same stats we do... of course they also
drink. Ted Kennedy, along with half
the legislative branch, wouldn't last long with those rules...(Freshen that up for you,
senator?). And corperate executives...doesn't their own health affect their
company...shouldn't they be first in line to give up, even at home, excesses that cost the
company money? Will they be tested and fired if the have a puff?
This is just more
govenment supported big business control of the workers...it has little to do with actual
smoking or health. The cost of testing people for tobacco makes the whole idea
moronic and financially impractical. And then we want to impliment a system of
corperate rats who snitch when they see
people smoking...what a wonderful society we are building
for ourselves. ]]I'm a social worker
and I've never seen children removed from their parents because mom or dad smoked
cigarettes.....I've never seen women battered because dad came home from the bar after
smoking a pack of cigarettes, and I've not
worked with clients who have brain injuries or loss of limb or
functioning due to a smoking
driver. Alcohol is by far a more damaging drug to our social fabric.
Message 1 of 3 (Msg # 552362:304) Subject: SMOKE-DRINK-DIE>PROFITS Date: 5/12/05 3:04:43 PM EDT Author: Mickbigstick
Smoking injures and kills the Smoker but also
the public around them.
But so does Alcohol. But ITS ALL
ABOUT PROFITS. Restaurants, grocery stores and Bars like the Big Profits from
Alcohol but we all know that Many Drinkers will drink too much and that
Smokers will Smoke too much.
IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY and that is Why we don't
ban Both Alcohol and Tobacco.
Subject: Re: Ban cigarettes and alcohol Date: 6/6/05 2:43:07 PM EDT Author: JEBPURTY
SpiritedFriend2
wrote: [[They are the true poisons of
society along with the self righteous religious reich. ]]
Subject: Re: Ban
cigarettes and alcohol Date: 6/6/05
3:13:25 PM EDT Author: LBC 2940
SpiritedFriend2 wrote: [[They are the true poisons of society along
with the self righteous religious
reich. ]] I agree 100%.
Take interest in
the future--that is where you will spend the rest of your life!
Subject: Re: BUSINESS RIGHTS Date: 5/12/05 5:17:14 PM EDT Author: AnntWb
it never ceases to amaze me how this country
goes from one extreme to the
other......alcohol should be banned altogether, it causes more
accidents, more domestic violence more
everything.
Annette
Subject: Re: Drugs End All
Dreams=D.E.A.D. Date: 6/7/05 3:17:35 AM
EDT Author: Lonelycook
You
are so right, in fact lets also ban the use of alcohol and tobacco. VictorSto wrote: [[PLEASE STOP ALL THE TYPES OF DRUGS BEFORE IT
ENDS YOUR OR A LOVED ONE'S LIFE.
IT'S REALLY NOT WORTH IT. PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE
AND DESTROY YOUR LIFE. GOD LOVES
YOU THE WAY HE MADE YOU NATURALLY. ]]
Subject: Re: Legalize it why...not? Date: 5/15/05 6:22:37 PM EDT Author: Ihategomar
>From: JetMechMA
>I think alcohol
should be banned ....again. I have seen nothing but harm come >from it's
use. I would vote for prohibition in a heart beat
Subject: IT'S
ABOUT TIME!!!!!! Date: 6/6/05 1:09:41
PM EDT Author: Mightysphinx
Now we need to ban alcohol also. It
has no medical use and is even more
dangerous than Marijuana. Let's get rid of ALL the
drugs.
Subject: this law is soooo backwards Date: 6/6/05 6:27:42 PM EDT Author: TSOURCE1030
This law is so backwards. If the feds want
to be so big and bad to outlaw medical
marijuana, why don't they brush up on what happens when
alcohol is consumed or cigarettes are
smoked. It's alcohol and cigarettes that should be illegal! Alcohol
has been attributed to so many murders, drunken drivers
killing our loved ones, drownings.......I
could go on and on. Cigareettes cause respiratory problems, makes you miss work,
etc. In summary, the Federal Government
should not worry so much on how we treat ourselves. Alcohol and cigarettes should
be banned. Ignornant, Ignorant,
Ignorant....
Subject: Ignornant, Ignorant,
Ignorant.... Date: 6/6/05 3:15:08 PM
EDT Author: Razorman2
For
those of us who went to college (and actually did some
studying), we learned that there has never
once been a death related to the use of marijuana alone. We also learned, that two of the
three most dangerous drugs to the human body are alcohol and nicotine.
Where does marijuana stand on that list? It is pretty close to the bottom. Our society has let itself become ignorant,
and judgemental. Why do we condone and accept alcohol and nicotine as
a "lifestyle", something cool and glamorous? Why does our society continue
to fall for this insane propaganda? The answer is two fold....money and big
corporations. Open your eyes people.
If we want to ban the use of marijuana, then should we not take the next step and ban the use
of alcohol and nicotine? Many of you are mislead, and therefore assume
mislead opinions. No, I am not saying that we should aslo condone
the use of other drugs that are
medically proven to cause permanent, and long term damage to
our bodies (heroin, cocaine,
LSD). What I am saying is our society needs to wake up,
and educate itself with the facts, not
what our "trustworty" government and media
tell us. If we are to classify those who
smoke marijuana as loosers, should we not put those who drink and smoke cigaretes
into the same category? Why do we classify those who smoke marijuana as criminals,
when we classify alcoholics as people
who have a disease? Shame
on the government! Shame on those of you who judge
others, and have no idea what you are
talking about! Shame on you for not thinking for
yourself! Wake up people!
Subject: Re: whacky Date: 6/6/05 1:49:20 PM EDT Author: Collecthearts46
Kluj1 wrote: [[what a bunch of whacky crapola...banning
pot for medical...hell it should be
legal just for recreation......oh wait...people can go buy
alcohol...get stupid drunk to the
point they can not stand up...then drive and killl......to date, being 45, i have not seen
one such person smoke a lil weed and get beligerent or
stupid as they do on alcohol...go figure !! EXACTLY!!! People will
never "GET IT", you can get all the alcohol, and prescription
drugs you want, all addictive, all
causing serious car accidents, falls, etc. but weed that helps people in numerous
ways, has to be bought on the sly, like your
a criminal...sick, twisted laws!! give
me a bone any day over a pill or booze!
Subject: Re: Marijuana Date: 6/6/05 3:03:06 PM EDT Author: BttsGrvl
alcohol is the drug that should be
banned. at least a stoner is mellow.
drunk people are obnoxcious
morons.
Subject: Re: OUTLAW ALCOHOL Date: 6/6/05 2:23:58 PM EDT Author: RaceNdirt
Don't believe it for a second. Our
government has been profitting off drug trafficking longer than I've been alive.
It's big business. 60 Minutes focused on
the subject at their inception. Sad our politicians can
see fit to allow alcohol (which has
no medicinal properties) and would deny someone terminally ill the right to comfort. A
great many of our drugs have a plant base but marijuana has been singled out. It has
been taboo. Is it because it might drive the street value down and attack
profits if a ban was lifted? That would be my guess. Fact is alcohol kills
every day.
Subject: Medical marijuana... Date: 6/6/05 7:08:01 PM EDT Author: Windyshawnm
This statement bothers me: John Walters, director of national drug
control policy, defended the government's ban. "Science and research have
not determined that smoking marijuana is safe or effective," he said. ok... but alcohol & cigarettes have
proven health problems associated with them but they are legal? How many people have died from overdosing
on marijuana (pure, not laced)? 0 How
many people have died from alcohol poisoning? Waaay more
than 100 How many people have died
from smoking cigarettes? Millions
Subject: Just think people..for real. Date: 6/7/05 8:47:14 AM EDT Author: AircheckJoe
They are saying they don't know if
marijuana is a safe drug to use...hello...does that mean we should
make voixx, bextra and phen phen illegal drugs to possess
with jail sentences. What about all the people abusing
their Oxycotton
prescriptions...should we make that illegal too. If the
government could find a way to make
more money off of selling marijuana then they could off of preventing it this wouldn't be an
issue. There is more alcohol related deaths in a America than marijuana but
alcohol is still legal..and at one point alcohol was prohibited....what made
it safe all of a sudden....nothing....the government found a
way to make money of it by taxing it and taking political contributions from the
breweries. Let's not even go into the cigarettes that kill people
everyday...willl they ban those...never...the tobacco companies pay for every politian's
campaign.
Subject: How about alcohol Date: 6/6/05 5:45:13 PM EDT Author: SRice55000
why doesn't the government ban alcohol,
which has killed many people and broken up families....give me a break some
of you against legalizing are probably sitting down drinking you a beer
right now.....
Subject: Re: Marijuana is Not a Safe
Drug Date: 6/6/05 5:30:04 PM EDT Author: Lin2u52
Lin2u52 wrote: [[ ScottB6316
wrote: [[ Just wondering, what are your thoughts on
the sale and marketing of alcohol, particularly at sporting events and
spring break events. I'm sure there are alot of folks out there, whose loved
ones have suffered at the hands of drunk drivers, who would say alcohol was
a gateway drug to all kinds of stupid acts including beating up your wife and
vehicular manslaughter. Or, here's an
idea...lets try and raise our kids responsibly and let
those people with chronic illnesses
get the relief they need. ]] Honey I don't drink
or use drugs so banning the booze is a great idea to me. I have felt that way for a long
time. The trouble with booze an illeagle drugs that it makes on feel invincable,
9' tall and bullet proof so it causes
all kinds of problems for society. ]]
Subject: Re: Marijuana Date: 6/6/05 4:10:31 PM EDT Author: ForSickPupsOnly
Beckboat girl wrote: [[ StrykerDustyRed wrote: [[PRESCRIPTION DRUGS KILL MORE PEOPLE IN
A YEAR THAN POT HAS KILLED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS. ]] Alcohol kills more people, directly and
indirectly, and ruins more families lives
than any single "drug" on the planet, but, do any
politicians want to ban it?
Subject: Re: Ban drinking!!! Date: 6/6/05 1:01:47 PM EDT Author: HICKSVT
I agree. All we hear is smoking Cigs.
and pot. Well I agree Alcohol is the killer of other people. But the reason why drinking is okay is
because over half of the goverment does it. Why is
alcohol legal?
Subject: Why is alcohol legal? Date: 6/6/05 2:46:12 PM EDT Author: Valea42
I
dont understand how a liquid drug that destroys
families,neighborhoods is legal but
not pot? Isnt that hypocritical why than not ban both which
would be fine with me.
Subject: Our stupid government! Date: 6/6/05 8:25:26 PM EDT Author: Papacubkb
Cigarettes and alcohol kill way more
people than good ol' pot ever will, and will continue to do so. However our
greedy, stupid *ss government which doesn't
have a lick of common sense, can't profit from it so
they ban it. If it were legal it
would also cut into the insane profits that the pharmaceutical companies are raking in by
making Americans take their useless products, therefore they contribute millions to our
stupid government to fight the legalization of pot. Our government
doesn't operate on smarts and common sense, just dollars. If you
contribute enough money, you can control the government. Do you think we would be
in Iraq if they didn't have any oil...I think not, WMD's is just a lie masking the oil
companies money interests. This medical marijuana issue cuts into the
pharmaceutical companies bottom line. The pharmaceutical companies don't care
about our health...just the health of their bank accounts. Just listen to
their commercials. Take this prescription pill for this minor
ailment..but you may suffer these horrendous side effects.
Subject: MEDICINAL MARIJUANA Date: 6/6/05 12:00:11 PM EDT Author: Aqueenan3kings
BUT THE GOVT. WILL ALLOW YOU TO BUY
ALCOHOL--DRINK & GET SO HIGH YOU KILL SOMEOME ELSE OR YOURSELF DUE TO BEING
IMPAIRED. I JUST FEEL THAT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO GO TO SLEEP & WAKE UP IN
SEVERE PAIN EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES. SO YOU GOVT. PEOPLE---WAKE UP & SMELL
THE COFFEE DUDES- MARIJUANA DOESN'T KILL--BOOZE DOES!!!! BAN THE BOOZE &
KEEP OUR FAMLIES ALIVE--TIGHTEN THE LAWS ON THE CRAP & HELP OUR
DISABLED,VETS,ACCIDENT VICTIMS(DUE TO BOOZE) LIVE WITH LESS TO NO PAIN FOR THE REST OF THEIR
PAINFULL LIVES---PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STELLA CASWELL
Subject: Re: band them! Date: 5/31/05 4:09:35 PM EDT Author: Wiz kid 19936517 Ban
alcohol! The
goverments wouldn't do that cos they r horrible
monsters, they dont care about
people, they only care about all the money they get. I wish it
was banned i really do
Subject: Ban Alcohol Date: 4/14/05 10:29:05 AM EDT Author: Lotsoclas
They need to ban alcohol on flights
too. I believe that more emergency
stops have been caused more by unruly drunks than someone with a lighter.
Subject: Re: Ban Alcohol Date: 4/14/05 10:31:19 AM EDT Author: Knitster58
Lotsoclas
wrote: [[They need to ban
alcohol on flights too. I believe that more emergency
stops have been caused more by unruly
drunks than someone with a lighter. ]] They should ban alcohol on flights. Drunk
passengers on an airplane can make it
an unplesant experience for all.
Why do not ban an
alcohol (lesson from
history)
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Subject: Why do not ban an alcohol
(lesson from history) Date: 4/15/05 2:41:52
AM EDT Author: Vasilidavis
Lesson from history is simple. Alcohol was a major cause for many deaths
and illnesses. It was then banned and
now it's not. It makes no sense but nothing in this world does.
Subject: Re: Our Generation Date: 4/5/05 5:05:47 PM EDT Author: SDBreaux1987
Of course, but I don't exactly see the
government making any attempts to ban alcohol again.
You know what's weird?
The same thing people did with alcohol when it was banned at one point people are doing it
with pot (smoking it as though it's legal
-- and you'd be surprised how many people smoke it). And
that's how come alcohol was made legal
again -- too many people were being arrested for it.
I think the only
reason it isn't working with pot is because our government has become more money hungry (they make
money off of busting people with pot)
than what they used to be. I think there was a point in time
when the government truly cared about
its people.
Subject: Re: prohibited objects on
airplanes Date: 4/14/05 10:11:08 AM
EDT Author: Nicklplatedheart
IFMWBPR2634 wrote: [[Banning lighters on airplanes is
because of the fluids they contain. Why don't they realize that the alcohol that is
being carried for drinking is just as
dangerous. Even worse, the pilots are still getting alcohol
drinks while flying. When are they
going to stop that. When are they going to start testing pilots for alcohol before they
fly ? No alcohol aboard any plane should be allowed, if you need to drink
everytime you are idle, you're an alcoholic. ]] Let's all just compile a list of 25
things that should be banned in airports and airlines, combine the list, and send
it to the White House....by the time
we get through the list and the fine print, we could have
gotten to our destinations in a
covered wagon pulled by a mule!
Subject: Big Deal? Date: 3/21/05 11:23:05 AM EST Author: Krisnicole98
I was reading the link
for the 411 on steriod use from the webMD and this is why I think there are more things to
worry about than steriod use. These are the side effects listed: Men who take anabolic steriods may: * Develop breasts (the users
problem) * Get painful erections
(again the users problem) * Have
their testicels shrink (their problem again) * Have decreased sperm count (also their
problem) * Become infertile or impotent
(are we seeing a patern yet?) Both
men and women may: * Get acne * Have oily scalp and skin * Get yellowing of the skin * Become bald So Far I
Do Not See Any Real Dangers! Now a
little more serious things but I still have questions: * Have heart attacks (ok. good reason,
but a bad diet also causes this. I do not see anyone outlawing unhealthy
food!) * Develope significant risk of liver
disease and liver cancer (ok. alcohol
also causes this, but where is the ban on alcohol) * Have high levels of "bad " cholesterol. (Again, unhealthy foods cause this but we
still have fast food resturaunts on
ever corner in the country. ) * Have
mood swings, fly into rages, suffer delusions (Again, alcohol also causes all
these things, yet alcohol is still very much ok.) I
guess I am just curious about the REAL reason people are
so against steriods when there are
many legal things out there that are just as bad if not
worse out there??!!! I guess I just think that grown ups who
are educated on the side of effects of steriods should be able to make their
own decisions about it. There far more serious issues to worry about than
this!
(Msg # 551695:410) Subject: What to Ban Date: 4/15/05 6:19:23 PM EDT Author: Archnemesis1
In the article I read in today's paper,
it reported that there were 155
deaths "related to" ephedra. Not debating that there are risks with taking it, I have to
ask myself what the percentage of deaths
to people taking ephedra were. Why you ask?
In my state alone last year, there
were over 155 deaths "related to" alcohol (drunk driving, alcohol poisoning, etc), but the
government did not put a ban on alcohol consumption!
Subject: Re: prohibited objects on
airplanes Date: 4/14/05 10:46:32 AM
EDT Author: J2usall
I couldn't agree more. Just recently
there have been several incident of pilots being DWI while flying. Alcohol
kills or is responsible for far more deaths and illnesses than smoking. In
addition, there are numerous incidences of drunken passengers creating
disturbances on planes. In addition
to the NO Smoking Ban add a NO Alchoholic Drink ban. Of course
No Alchohol would mean a revenue loss
for the airline so that is probably why this issue is not pursued. For the
record, I am a smoker and been known to imbibe, so have no axe to grind. I totally agree with the notion of pre
flight testing of pilots et all for drugs
and alcohol. It's about time the"
powers that be" cease regimenting the American
public and start legislating
their monied constituancy regarding obvious problems.
Message 1 of 3 Subject 1 of
1 Subject: Smoking and
drinking Date: 5/6/2003 6:50 PM
Central Daylight Time As far as
bars go... I am against alcohol! When someone drinks and
drives it is like someone playing russian roullete with their own
lives and the lives of anyone on the road. Alcohol is a
drug. An addictive drug. Yet it is legal. I was
young and foolish at the time that I drank. Alcohol causes
some people to black out and not know what they have done during
that time. It is a big cause of the break up of
marriages. Of families. When a spouse chooses alcohol
over their family. I feel alcohol should be illegal. I
am more anti alcohol than anti smoking. If someone doesn't
want to be where their is smoke then go to someplace that has a no
smoking section. If someone doesn't want to be around alcohol
you have to stay inside you home because people drink and
drive. I lost a brother n law who was on his way home from
college with his fiance' to tell the family he was getting
married. On their way home a man who was under the influence
of alcohol ran into them. He died instantly, his fiance' lived
in a coma for a few months and died. They were both 21 years
old. Just graduated from college and ready to start their
lives as husband and wife. And one man took that away from
them. One man took away a brother , a son, a daughter, a
friend to so many. There are deaths of families, children,
babies, husbands, wives, mothers, fathers , and friends, everyday
because alcohol is legal. Yes ,
smoking is bad but alcohol is so much worse. You can get away
from smoke you can't get away from alcohol. God Bless
All! Rid this great country of the deadly liquid , alcohol.
Message 1 of 9 Subject
1 of 1 Subject: BRING BACK ALCOHOL
PROHIBITION Date: 5/7/2003 7:13 AM
Central Daylight Time From: CNM Designs
1 Message-id:
<20030507081345.23388.00003234@mbs-r06.aol.com>
Let's list just a few
things that Alcohol does to a person OR to someone that may be right
next to them.
* Drinking during pregnancy has been linked to
birth defects and is the leading known preventable cause of mental
retardation. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) is characterized by a
cluster of congenital birth defects which include low birth weight,
physical deformities, neurological and other major organ disorders.
(this affects more than the person drinking, ya wanna talk about
second hand smoke?)
* Pregnant women who drink are twice as likely
as nondrinkers to have a growth-retarded infant weighing less than
5.5 pounds.
*
Alcohol use results in economic costs of more than $112 billion each
year, or nearly $400 for each person in the United
States.
* Nearly one-fourth of all persons admitted to
general hospitals have alcohol problems or are undiagnosed
alcoholics being treated for the consequences of their drinking. Up
to 25% of emergency room visits involve alcohol. In 1990, Federal
payments for alcohol-related health-care costs amounted to more than
$21 billion.
* In 1999, alcohol and other substance abuse
costs imposed $60.3 billion on Medicare and Medicaid, veterans, and
other major health benefits.
* In 2001, alcohol was
a factor in more than 40% of traffic fatalities
* Approximately
35% of fatalities from falls and 43% from burns are
alcohol-related
* Forty-seven percent (47%) to 65% of adult
drownings involve alcohol.
* Up to 40% of
industrial fatalities and 47% of industrial injuries can be linked
to alcohol consumption and alcoholism.
* A 2000 study of
boating fatalities in four states found that 51% of the fatalities
involved a Blood Alcohol Content (BAC) of .04 or more. Thirty-one
percent (31%) had BACs over .10.
* Alcohol is the
leading cause of death and injury (e.g., motor-vehicle crashes,
homicides, and suicides) among teenagers and young adults ages
15-24.
*The estimated annual cost of alcohol-related
STDs in the United States is $556 million.
Lets put the same
restrictions on alcohol to save our population that we do on
tabacco!
TRUTH
Message 1 of 2 Subject
1 of 1 Subject: but
don't drink Date: 5/5/2003 7:21 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
JMX123 Message-id:
<20030505202139.21181.00017127@mbs-m11.aol.com> Although I believe smoker should
be courteous to non-smokers I believe that the exact same laws,
taxes and social barriers should be put in place for alcohol.
I have never drove
home drunk on Cigarettes, how many people are killed each year on
the road by smokers. How many spouse abuse and assault cases
arise out of someone coming home having had too many cigs.
Healthcare costs in
this country (15%+ alcoholic rate) for alchol abuse is far greater
than that for smoking. So why aren't the states suing alcohol
manufacturers??? Why are Alcohol companies allowed to make
seductive ads aimed at young people??
Money, Money , Money thats why!!! It is amazing
that they banned smoking on airplanes (not for your health, but to
save on fresh oxygen thats required), but you read the papers all
the time about incidendents involving alcohol............Airlines
sell alcohol not cigarettes....amazing that they would put an
aircraft in jeopardy, but don't you dare smoke!!
Look at baseball and
other sports...............The have banned smoking, but alcohol
crazed fans attack umpires and players...in Europe its worse!!
Message 1 of 21
Subject 1 of 1 Subject: BAN ALCOHOL TOO,
ALCOHOL ALSO KILLS Date: 5/6/2003 6:28 PM
Central Daylight Time From: Jordan
INC Message-id:
<20030506192811.14895.00001129@mbs-m11.aol.com> Cigs
are legal just as is Alcohol, Alcohol stinks and can kill me and my
children when faced with one under the influence on a highway, a
highway that I as a tax payer help pay for, All drinkers that are
downing the smokers, well guess what .. you are next .. cigs and
alcohol are both legal, yet city and state officals seem to have the
right to tell buyers when and what they can do with their purchases.
I am a non-smoker, but I stand for smokers rights, and I don't down
one because of their choices, come back to this same forum in a year
when you will be discussing the issues of alcohol banning as well,
then you will be on the same page the smokers are on today.
Message 1 of 12
Subject 1 of 1 Subject: ~~~~ALCOHOL IS MUCH
WORSE~~~~ Date: 5/5/2003 9:56 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
FlashinThePan79 Message-id:
<20030505225605.00435.00014183@mbs-m08.aol.com> Alcohol kills many more innocent people than
smoking does.If i want to smoke, I am only
harming myself(as long as i don't expose anyone to my smoke)
which i dont,but Alcohol related deaths are
much worse because it kills innocent people. I have yet to hear of smoking tobacco that has
lead to any deaths,except for a 1 percent,that causes a fire from smoking.The
reason everyone is coming down on smokers is because there are alot
more Drinkers than smokers,98 percent of congress drinks,So they attack Smokers to draw attention away from
drinking! I will smoke any place i choose, but i choose to smoke only in my own home,I
think restaraunts and Bars should put in glass rooms with Hepa filters,So smokers can
smoke,otherwise,they should get rid of the Alcohol as well!! I am
sick of Government coming down on Smokers just to draw attention
away from all the deaths caused by Alcohol,not including liver
disease,and a list of diseases that Alcohol
is directly a known cause of.LAY OFF THE SMOKERS OR GET RID OF THE
DRINKERS AS WELL!!!
Message 1 of 1 Subject 1 of 1
Subject: ATTACK
ALCOHOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 5/6/2003 9:47 AM
Central Daylight Time From:
KEN12334 Message-id:
<20030506094547.06041.00016826@mbs-r05.aol.com> This
is all a one sided BS attack. Non-smokers can argue the health
issues all they want, but you don't hear them arguing those points
about alcohol. In fact alcohol isn't even under attack, so let's
talk about that...
Health Issues:
A) Self Inflicted Illnesses 1) Tobacco 2)
Alcohol a) Tobacco causes Lung Cancer b) Alcohol destroys the liver
B) Affecting Others 1) Tobacco 2)
Alcohol a) 2nd hand smoke may cause others
medical problems twenty years down the road b) Drinking and Driving can wipe out a family
right down the road fifteen minutes from a bar
In an outdoor stadium
at a sporting event you can drink all you want up to a certain point
of the game, but you can't smoke a cigarette. At many restaraunts
you can order hard liquor and drink as much as you want, but you
can't smoke a cigarette. I don't see no anti drinking movements
happening, only anti smoking attacks. How about leveling the playing
field?
Oh to
non-smokers who drink wouldn't like the idea of their right to a
beer with their steak being taken away would they? Or God forbid if
you can't drink at a sporting event, but the hell with cigarette
smokers rights! Doesn't that pretty much sum up the truth behind all
of this?
Spare me
with the 2nd hand smoke BS argument too, because as already proven
above that is a hypocritical argument. How many of you drinkers
always has a designated driver? Sorry, but your drinking and driving
is far more deadly and harmful to others than second hand smoke.
Message 1 of 1 Subject
1 of 1 Subject: Ban smoking in bars?
Then ban alcohol too! Date: 5/5/2003 7:53 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
LoveTULS Message-id:
<20030505205323.06283.00014619@mbs-r02.aol.com> Both
alcohol and smoking kill people.. if a bar is going to ban smoking,
might as well ban alcohol too. Alcohol kills more people than
smoking anyway, you have to add up those in car accidents,
alcoholism, suicide attempts which yes, is sometimes caused by
alcohol. Why in hell, when you're in a bar, would you want to go
outside and smoke a cigarette when some bars actually have a fee to
get in? Which means you'd have to pay to get in again. Bars are
social places. Personally, if a bar chose to ban smoking I don't
think many people would attend, everyone has a friend that smokes
and they aren't going to want to go there. I think if a non-smoker
has a problem with it he or she should just shove it up their you
know what, because even when you step outside (for those non-smokers
that have a problem with this) their going to run into polution that
could possibly kill them also.. so, maybe we should just go back to
cavemen time??
Liz
Subject: If we ban Smoking
then ALCOHOL should be outlawed as well. Date: 5/5/2003 5:59 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
PhenderStrat Message-id:
<20030505185912.06107.00014767@mbs-r02.aol.com> This
is freaking ridiculous!! If cigarettes are to be made illegal,
then alcohol should be illegal as well. More people die from
the stupidity of drunkenness than from second hand smoke!! Can
anyone name one documented case in which the cause of death was
second hand smoke??? You probably cannot because there is none
to document. How many INNOCENT people die from a drunk
driver's poor judgement??? Thousands! So, If the enviro-nazis
decide to make smoking illegal, then alcohol should be first.
Alcohol is the most addicting, life ruining drug out there besides
perhaps heroin. Oh and by the way alcohol kills brain cells,
messes up your liver, stomach, and pancreas. Americans are
soooo vastly stupid when it comes to things that should make common
sense. I wish people in this hole in the earth would wake up
and get some brains before the whole country collapses.
Message 36 of 43
Subject 1 of 1 Subject: Re: can drinking
alcohol make you fat? Date: 5/5/2003 10:18 AM
Central Daylight Time From:
Whitesmar Message-id:
<20030505111805.20617.00012453@mbs-m07.aol.com>
>Dear friend that
is true what you say, but let me repectfully add that >alcohol is a deadly poison that should
NEVER enter the body. >You and multitudes
will rush to condemn me and rigorously disagree, but if >you fully check out where alcohol comes
from and the damage it does even in >moderation, you would be horrified. >Every time you take just one alcoholic
drink, you instantly lose hundreds of >brain cells. >As
well as having the writings of some of the greatest physcians who
have >done vast unbiase researches, I can
testify from personal experience >too.Finally, to your question, yes of
course it can make you fat, look at the >numberless pot bellied boozers. >Want to know more about this terrifyingly
horrendous poison disguised with >heavy
doses of varieties of sugars,sweeteners and flavourings? just drop
me >an e mail ok?
Message 17 of 43
Subject 1 of 1 Subject: Re: can drinking
alcohol make you fat? Date: 5/5/2003 8:05 AM
Central Daylight Time From:
TWCinternational Message-id:
<20030505090540.26908.00012572@mbs-m09.aol.com>
Dear friend, ALL
alcohol should NEVER enter the body, it odes NO GOOD WHATSOEVER. As I said in another message,the bozze is
produced by the "fermentation" process, ferment means to rot, decay?go off. Booze is very good at tricking the mind and
body, i.e. schnapz is drunk to keep out the cold, WRONG!, what it
does is has a sort of numbing effect so you cant feel the cold. this
is why tramps drink meths, they think they feel warm but they die of
hyperthermia because the body cant warn them they are cold because
the neves that cause shiver to warn you are numbed. Alcohol is a depressant, and finally what
happens to make one tipsy or drunk, what actually causes that? What
happens is that because of the poison in y
Message 1 of 12 Subject 1 of
1 Subject: ~~~~ALCOHOL IS MUCH
WORSE~~~~ Date: 5/5/2003 9:56 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
FlashinThePan79 Message-id:
<20030505225605.00435.00014183@mbs-m08.aol.com>
Alcohol kills many
more innocent people than smoking does.If i want to smoke, I am only harming myself(as long as i don't
expose anyone to my smoke) which i dont,but
Alcohol related deaths are much worse because it kills innocent
people. I have yet to hear of smoking
tobacco that has lead to any deaths,except for a 1 percent,that causes a fire from smoking.The
reason everyone is coming down on smokers is because there are alot
more Drinkers than smokers,98 percent of congress drinks,So they attack Smokers to draw attention away from
drinking! I will smoke any place i choose, but i choose to smoke only in my own home,I
think restaraunts and Bars should put in glass rooms with Hepa filters,So smokers can
smoke,otherwise,they should get rid of the Alcohol as well!! I am
sick of Government coming down on Smokers just to draw attention
away from all the deaths caused by Alcohol,not including liver
disease,and a list of diseases that Alcohol
is directly a known cause of.LAY OFF THE SMOKERS OR GET RID OF THE
DRINKERS AS WELL!!!
Message 1 of 1 Subject 1 of 1
Subject: ATTACK
ALCOHOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 5/6/2003 9:47 AM
Central Daylight Time From:
KEN12334 Message-id:
<20030506094547.06041.00016826@mbs-r05.aol.com>
This is all a one
sided BS attack. Non-smokers can argue the health issues all they
want, but you don't hear them arguing those points about alcohol. In
fact alcohol isn't even under attack, so let's talk about that...
Health Issues:
A) Self Inflicted
Illnesses 1) Tobacco 2) Alcohol a) Tobacco
causes Lung Cancer b) Alcohol destroys the
liver
B) Affecting
Others 1) Tobacco 2)
Alcohol a) 2nd hand smoke may cause others
medical problems twenty years down the road b) Drinking and Driving can wipe out a family
right down the road fifteen minutes from a bar
In an outdoor stadium
at a sporting event you can drink all you want up to a certain point
of the game, but you can't smoke a cigarette. At many restaraunts
you can order hard liquor and drink as much as you want, but you
can't smoke a cigarette. I don't see no anti drinking movements
happening, only anti smoking attacks. How about leveling the playing
field?
Oh to
non-smokers who drink wouldn't like the idea of their right to a
beer with their steak being taken away would they? Or God forbid if
you can't drink at a sporting event, but the hell with cigarette
smokers rights! Doesn't that pretty much sum up the truth behind all
of this?
Spare me
with the 2nd hand smoke BS argument too, because as already proven
above that is a hypocritical argument. How many of you drinkers
always has a designated driver? Sorry, but your drinking and driving
is far more deadly and harmful to others than second hand smoke.
Message 1 of 1 Subject
1 of 1 Subject: Ban smoking in bars?
Then ban alcohol too! Date: 5/5/2003 7:53 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
LoveTULS Message-id:
<20030505205323.06283.00014619@mbs-r02.aol.com>
Both alcohol and
smoking kill people.. if a bar is going to ban smoking, might as
well ban alcohol too. Alcohol kills more people than smoking anyway,
you have to add up those in car accidents, alcoholism, suicide
attempts which yes, is sometimes caused by alcohol. Why in hell,
when you're in a bar, would you want to go outside and smoke a
cigarette when some bars actually have a fee to get in? Which means
you'd have to pay to get in again. Bars are social places.
Personally, if a bar chose to ban smoking I don't think many people
would attend, everyone has a friend that smokes and they aren't
going to want to go there. I think if a non-smoker has a problem
with it he or she should just shove it up their you know what,
because even when you step outside (for those non-smokers that have
a problem with this) their going to run into polution that could
possibly kill them also.. so, maybe we should just go back to
cavemen time??
Liz
Subject: If we ban Smoking
then ALCOHOL should be outlawed as well. Date: 5/5/2003 5:59 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
PhenderStrat Message-id:
<20030505185912.06107.00014767@mbs-r02.aol.com>
This is freaking
ridiculous!! If cigarettes are to be made illegal, then
alcohol should be illegal as well. More people die from the
stupidity of drunkenness than from second hand smoke!! Can
anyone name one documented case in which the cause of death was
second hand smoke??? You probably cannot because there is none
to document. How many INNOCENT people die from a drunk
driver's poor judgement??? Thousands! So, If the enviro-nazis
decide to make smoking illegal, then alcohol should be first.
Alcohol is the most addicting, life ruining drug out there besides
perhaps heroin. Oh and by the way alcohol kills brain cells,
messes up your liver, stomach, and pancreas. Americans are
soooo vastly stupid when it comes to things that should make common
sense. I wish people in this hole in the earth would wake up
and get some brains before the whole country collapses.
Message 36 of 43
Subject 1 of 1 Subject: Re: can drinking
alcohol make you fat? Date: 5/5/2003 10:18 AM
Central Daylight Time From:
Whitesmar Message-id:
<20030505111805.20617.00012453@mbs-m07.aol.com>
>Dear friend that
is true what you say, but let me repectfully add that >alcohol is a deadly poison that should
NEVER enter the body. >You and multitudes
will rush to condemn me and rigorously disagree, but if >you fully check out where alcohol comes
from and the damage it does even in >moderation, you would be horrified. >Every time you take just one alcoholic
drink, you instantly lose hundreds of >brain cells. >As
well as having the writings of some of the greatest physcians who
have >done vast unbiase researches, I can
testify from personal experience >too.Finally, to your question, yes of
course it can make you fat, look at the >numberless pot bellied boozers. >Want to know more about this terrifyingly
horrendous poison disguised with >heavy
doses of varieties of sugars,sweeteners and flavourings? just drop
me >an e mail ok?
Message 17 of 43
Subject 1 of 1 Subject: Re: can drinking
alcohol make you fat? Date: 5/5/2003 8:05 AM
Central Daylight Time From:
TWCinternational Message-id:
<20030505090540.26908.00012572@mbs-m09.aol.com>
Dear friend, ALL
alcohol should NEVER enter the body, it odes NO GOOD WHATSOEVER. As I said in another message,the bozze is
produced by the "fermentation" process, ferment means to rot, decay?go off. Booze is very good at tricking the mind and
body, i.e. schnapz is drunk to keep out the cold, WRONG!, what it
does is has a sort of numbing effect so you cant feel the cold. this
is why tramps drink meths, they think they feel warm but they die of
hyperthermia because the body cant warn them they are cold because
the neves that cause shiver to warn you are numbed. Alcohol is a depressant, and finally what
happens to make one tipsy or drunk, what actually causes that? What
happens is that because of the poison in your blood, the blood cells
stick together like sticky gobstopper sweets thus restricting the
flow of blood through the capilliary glands, hence the result is a
lack of oxygen to the brain and the brain starts to malfunction, the
person becomes more and more incoherant and wobbly, silly and even
hallucinatory and violent and sick, some paraletic to the point of
incapable of simple body movements and eventually passing out. Now tell me that this behaviour is natural and
perfectly normal and fun. FUN? to destroy your mind and body
cells,to wallow around like some stupifed zombie and then wake up
with a horrendous hangover and often not remember a thing? Has the
human race lost the plot or something?
Subject: Re: If we ban
Smoking then ALCOHOL should be outlawed as well.
Date: 5/5/2003 7:57 PM
Central Daylight Time From: KAREN
626 Message-id:
<20030505205702.22911.00013780@mbs-m10.aol.com>
I believe you are
right about the alcohol. I know it not only puts people on the
highways in danger but it also destroys most families. I know
this for a certainty. I wonder what will happen when they ban
alcohol just like they do smoking? It needs to happen.
Being a drunk is more readily accepted where smoking is not.
Go to any bar around closing time and see who the alcohol is aimed
at. Most of them are young people. All alcoholic
commercials are aimed at the young people and show what a joyous
time these people have that drink. What these commercials
don't show is the heartbreak of families that have to deal with the
problem. GET REAL
This new law is just another way to take away
the rights of all people. When are people going to wake up and
see what is happening. One day we won't have any rights at all
and the American people will have no one to blame but themselves
Subject: Re: Liquor Kills
Quicker !!!! Date: 5/7/2003 11:25 AM
Central Daylight Time From:
MTuttle328 Message-id:
<20030507122545.20768.00003856@mbs-m01.aol.com>
OK, I agree that
restaurants should be non-smoking; or at least clearly state
that, if a "Bar and Grill" type of establishment, smoking is allowed
in certain sections....As an ex-smoker, I don't care to eat at a
restaurant that allows smoking....ON THE OTHER HAND: ALCOHOL
RELATED ILLNESS HOSPITALIZE AND KILL THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE EACH YEAR! OK, we would NEVER think of banning booze....but
it is a CHOICE to order a drink, or to frequent establishments which
serve alcoholic beverages. Hell, booze affects thousands of
unborn children, and millions of families suffer because of alcohol
related problems each year, but we dare not say that everyone who
CHOOSES to drink has a low IQ, is selfish, is a bad parent,
etc....
Subject: Re: Ban Alcohol
Too Date: 5/5/2003 6:57 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
Pattimhart Message-id:
<20030505195710.20129.00014175@mbs-m10.aol.com>
I agree...and I
am a smoker. I do not like the price hikes of the cig's...but
I think alcohol should be banned all together. What the hell
good does it do. I was the child of drinkers, the wife of
drinkers...and yes ocassionally I do drink..but I could live with
out it. Perhaps one day I can live with out smoking too.
Alcohol kills
people in many more ways that smoking.
Car wrecks. Liver
disease.
Family violence. Many other
things that I have lived through.
There was a time
when alcohol was banned....I would like to see it agian.
Subject: Re: U cannot compare
alcohol & smoking! Date: 5/6/2003 12:42 PM
Central Daylight Time From:
Luv935 Message-id:
<20030506134220.17993.00018281@mbs-m10.aol.com>
it is a proven
fact that alcohol has major affects on the lungs as bad as cigarette
smoke not to MENTION alcohol also creates tiny holes in your brain
tissue which is not reversable.alcohol also causes effects on your
judgment and people drinking also loose their inhibitions. does
smoking cause you to loose your judgment or inhibitions? do you hear of car crashes because of a smoker
that got out of hand? do you hear of people going to jail because
they lost their temper smoking? do your
book-work.
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I hate drugs and
alcohol I hate drugs and alcohol I hate drugs and alcohol I
hate drugs and alcohol I hate drugs and
alcohol
Alcohol is how
satan makes the humans celebrate on how they destroyed the creation
Of the Creator, and how they destroyed mother earth for richness.
2 minutes ago
alcohol is
poison!
alcohol is
poison!
we hate drugs
and alcohol!!its sucks.,!!
Harrison Nguyen I'm 18 years and 6 months old and i'm 18 years
and 6 months alcohol free. Now the big test...college. Bring it
on
Todd Dudek in Australia, its not only socialy accepted to
drink alcohol but it is socialy EXPECTED which is why we have such a
problem over hear. oh well! no one realises til its too late. there
are plenty of legal, healthy alteratives out there ;P
Joe Kennedy Ive had pancreatitis 3 times from booze in my
20s. Finally quit the Poisin
Adam Cozzie its like jumping in a shark tank expecting to box
them to death
Quentin Estes It makes one dangerously incoherent. I loath
& despise everything about alcohol.
Coleen Bryssinck There's something wrong with the kids these
days. Everyone i knows drinks, and most of the time just because
they are bored, or because they think it's fun! You don't need
alcohol to have fun!
Ch Abdul Wahab every one want to have fun !!! so more drink
and more fun .. isn't it ? after having fun, some of us vomit on
the streets, malls, stations ... peeing in the pants, on public
booths, streets ... do we really want this kind of fun ? next day
we will be falling around, saying "oh ****, i drank last night, i
got hung over" "my head is hurting" "aah, i dunno what happen last
night" "i couldnt manage to walk"
what the hell is
wrong with ppl :(
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